1. Good answer, Jake; thank you. Pushing people who don't want to obey their own laws is sometimes called "Make(ing) It Happen." Although Iowa is the most convenient state for me, we must be sure that same-sex marriages are taking place in every state where it has been made legal; do you have information that those marriages are already taking place in good numbers to make our point?
2. In a religious ceremony, the marriage is made by the vows between two people, witnessed and approved of by the official witnesses and the person licensed by the state to conduct marriages (who sign the marriage license) and any other congregation (who show their love of the couple and approval of their union), and blessed by God. In a civil ceremony, the clerk is not required to call for a blessing by God but will generally add anything the couple wants. In either case, the couple is ultimately responsible for filing with the state a copy of the marriage license-turned-Marriage Certificate; clergy or clerks MAY do it for the couple, but the new couple is responsible for making sure it did happen.
3. Hospitals don't recognize marriages made between two people without the paperwork. If a couple isn't married THEIR way, they better have papered the parking lot with ironclad copies of their mutual unlimited or medical Powers of Attorney just so one partner can receive the test results and/or make medical decisions for the other--or sometimes just to VISIT the other if the patient is admitted.
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To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com
From: gasolty@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 01:07:31 -0400
Subject: [Peckers_Pics] Re: Same Sex Marriage in Iowa
Regarding the article regarding same-sex marriage in Iowa:
If you marry in Iowa, isn't the marriage only recognized in that state?
I mean if a same-sex couple from Missouri goes to Iowa to get married, their
marriage is not recognized in the state of Missouri, so what is the point?
Or am I missing something ....
Moderator: The point is that you can! It is a way of enforcing your rights. Some places do recognize out of state marriage, some do not. But, even if you live in a state that does not recognize same gender marriage, it will not stop me from placing "married" on bank documents, drivers license, etc... If they don't like it, let them take me to court. If i have a marriage certificate, than as far as i am concerned, it is real and still real in the state i got married. And it is real to me. In fact, laws stating it is not real may not be legal. Try getting divorced? They found that it is legal as they have no way of divorcing you. Eventually it shall go to the US Supreme Court. Get married now. Enforce your rights! We have force in numbers. Years later it may be recognized and you may be able to count the years. But, i can start counting the years immediately. You are missing the point of enforcing your own rights. Watch a out of state couple get married and you will watch them cry. It is more real than you can imagine. And in the state you got married, it is law. No one can tell me it is isn't. If they have not beaten you in court, than it is real. Take that marriage certicate to a hospital with you if your spouse is in teh ER, etc. Let them try to stop me! They won't have a chance. .....jake
If you marry in Iowa, isn't the marriage only recognized in that state?
I mean if a same-sex couple from Missouri goes to Iowa to get married, their
marriage is not recognized in the state of Missouri, so what is the point?
Or am I missing something ....
Moderator: The point is that you can! It is a way of enforcing your rights. Some places do recognize out of state marriage, some do not. But, even if you live in a state that does not recognize same gender marriage, it will not stop me from placing "married" on bank documents, drivers license, etc... If they don't like it, let them take me to court. If i have a marriage certificate, than as far as i am concerned, it is real and still real in the state i got married. And it is real to me. In fact, laws stating it is not real may not be legal. Try getting divorced? They found that it is legal as they have no way of divorcing you. Eventually it shall go to the US Supreme Court. Get married now. Enforce your rights! We have force in numbers. Years later it may be recognized and you may be able to count the years. But, i can start counting the years immediately. You are missing the point of enforcing your own rights. Watch a out of state couple get married and you will watch them cry. It is more real than you can imagine. And in the state you got married, it is law. No one can tell me it is isn't. If they have not beaten you in court, than it is real. Take that marriage certicate to a hospital with you if your spouse is in teh ER, etc. Let them try to stop me! They won't have a chance. .....jake
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