Re: [Peckers_Pics] Re: The Westboro Baptist Church.

Of course it is that old "free speech" thing again.  Or rather its twin: "free Press".  There is no such thing as responsible press anymore.  They are out for scandal and dissent which sells.  You would never be able to get all the press to ignore them for long. 

Moderator: agree, agree, agree. To be fair, Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is fair, or doesn't lie. Yes, she is a liberal; but that is not a bad thing. But, she is not a news show. She is a pundit with a doctorate. I recommend people to watch CBS evening news with Katie Couric. Too bad the LGBT community does not do that. NBC evening news and ABC evening news are biased republicans. Katie is fair to all (well, sorry; but Katie was fair to Palin. It was palin who could not answer sinmply questions. Bless Katie for her honesty and not kissing up to palin......jake

--- On Sat, 3/5/11, Terry Purdue <smooth_op_85@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Purdue <smooth_op_85@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Peckers_Pics] Re: The Westboro Baptist Church.
To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 12:15 AM

What they need is a media black out. The fact that they're getting the free press should be disturbing

Moderator: I agree.   I have advised poeple of this. They just want attention.  Also, they threaten to boycott dozen's of more funerals than they actually attend.  People are already protesting against them at each site. TYhey get a article printed in every newspaper about a threatened protest. This is what westboro wants.   They are attention getters.  Ignore tham and they shall dissapear.  We need to place less attention to those idots.  Also, i ahve blocked messages requesting we shoot them.. I can't say how I would react if they protested a member of my family or a friend; but, i will use the law to the best of myability and contact/petition the sheriff for sane supervison,  protection and calm.  ...jake

--- On Fri, 3/4/11, Me Me <xxx000au@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Me Me <xxx000au@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Peckers_Pics] Re: The Westboro Baptist Church.
To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 7:15 PM

 

 

   
     
     
      I suspect that while the courts would love to pass findings that would close

them down, the courts don't as they are mindful of the impact such a finding

could have on other "respectable" religions. 

Remember.

In the end the Government makes the laws and the citizens must follow them. 

There is absolute nothing stopping the US government from formulating laws that

would silence Fred Phelps.   Don’t be fooled into believing it’s about freedom

of speech.  It is not. It is about protecting religion.

Putting our sexuality aside.

I think allowing them to do as they do is a smack in the face for all members of

the armed forces and their families / friends plus your country over all.

I wonder if a group of Muslims did the same, how long would they last?

I cant understand why a country that generates citizens who will go out and kill

a person of peace such as John Lennon, or a people of any political beliefs or

go to a school and kill fellow students (your children) or just plain old be

sexually

driven serial killer, the government soon deals with such people yet they don't

bothered to deal with a person who spreads such hate as does

Fred Phelps and his band of followers.   

Freedom of speech is what your told and yet  when some silly student (teenager)

from England sent an offensive email to your president. (reminds me of a

Simpsons

episode.) He was hunted down by Scotland Yard so that the CIA could tell him

he is no longer welcome to visit the US and that ban is for life.

I also wonder if say the Mafia, biker gangs or a paedophile ring were to do as

Fred Phelps does, would the courts be as tolerant of them? 

This will only end when you people descend on their local member of

Government in mass protest and demand action. The guy is a nutter who should be

locked away. 

Moderator: we may need constitutional ammendment to ban protests at a private citizen and miliary, etc. funeral. doubt the house republicans would do this ...jake

----- Original Message ----

From: Gay Cop <gaycopchgo@gmail.com>

To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 10:15:55 AM

Subject: Re: [Peckers_Pics] Model Wars, PICS; Mar 3, 2011-Safe PICS For All Ages

I wonder how the Appeals court would rule if there were a day of silence for

black people during Black History Month and the young lady wore a shirt that

said "Be Happy, Not Black."  Or maybe, on Cinco de Mayo - she wore a shirt

that said 'Be Happy, Not Mexican."  Is that considered protected speech or

is it hateful speech?

Until we, as a society, start believing that being gay is NOT A CHOICE will

will continue to face narrow minded people.  Whether you are Black, Mexican,

Asian or Gay... we were all born that way.  We can no more change who we are

than Blacks, and others, can change who they are.  Just as we should not be

prejudice against other races, we should not be prejudice against gays.

Moderator:    I understand free speech. But, i wonder if the hate crime law that

was  signed by obama prevents such hate.  I guess, since the US Supreme  Court

just ruled the westboro (anti-gay church) can protest military  funerals, than

people can wear hateful shirts.  .....It is sad.   .....jake

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Phil Harris <phil.harris39@yahoo.com> wrote:

   
     

   
   

 

     

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