George Bush. And that was towards the end of his administration.
Democratics always supported his miliary and war spending (even though i
do not). . If Bush disagreed with democratics, he simply vetoed the
bill. Yes, Bush vetoed the hate crime law.
I do not recall any policians statign that Bush is not their president.
However, was he properperly elected? well unlike Pres. Obama, Bush was
not. But, like you said, oh i can say why; but it would take so
long.......
You are against Obama's agenda? but pray for him? that sounds like
rubbish to me. What is his agenda? Just say it for us, cause we have no
idea what you are speaking of. Are you speaking of his agenda that
gave us healthcare by private insurers regardless of preexisting
illness? Are you against the agenda that he prevented the 2nd great
depression. Are YOU AGAINST HIS AGeNDA THAT prevented the US
auto-industry from failing (and we are getting every penny back and
more)? Are you against hsi agenda that signed the hate crime Bill into
law?
So what is this mysterious agenda that you are
""""""""""""alluding""""""""""""""""" too? What is the agenda?
...jake
--- In Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com, tom s <tompa1970@...> wrote:
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> Hi Jake,
> A couple of comments about your comments...
> 1. Â You say that "Democratics supported George W Bush". Â
ummm... I'm not sure where you were for the 8 years that President Bush
was in office, but most of it was pretty acrimonious. Â Except for
the period directly following 9/11, the Democrats HATED President Bush.
 I can't count the number of times I heard, "He's not my President"
or "He's a war criminal" Â or "He's a traitor and a liar". Â Â
> Now, let me say this pretty loud and clear. Â I called Democrats on
it when they did, just as I call Republicans on it when they do it for
President Obama. Â I don't support President Obama's agenda, but I do
support him. Â I pray for him daily and I do not allow anyone to run
him down in my presence. Â In fact, I have even lost friends due to
it. Â I refuse to allow it.
> 2. Â Each side says that we should be "Country First, party second"
when they're trying to get people to agree with their agenda. Â
Unfortunately, it's pretty easy to forget what it's like to be in
minority once you get into power.
> 3. Â For the record, I am opposed to Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Â
And honestly, a lot of my friends who are in the military don't really
care either. Â As one friend of mine said, "I know who he's sleeping
with every night and I know that he's faithful. Â Why should I worry?
 Gay ain't catchable."
> 4. Â For the record, I am for gay "marriage", but in a very strange
way. Â It's way too long to go into here though.
> 5. Â And I do agree, this is Jake's sandbox. Â He can run it
anyway that he wants to. Â He professes that he wants us to
contribute and that's what I was trying to do. Â Believe it or not,
there are a LOT of gay and bi Republicans. Â Probably more than you
might know. Â
> Just some food for thought.
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> Subject: [Peckers_Pics] Person Comments
> To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 7:59 AM
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> Dear Jake and everybody,
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> I would like to express a growing concern and frustration that I have.
 I have chosen to join several of Jakes yahoo groups for 2 reasons.
 The first, of course, are the hot pics.  And the second? Â
for the health and fitness tips that they profess to give.
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> However, I have frequently found the text, which is supposed to be
about health and wellness, disintegrating into anti-Republican rants.
 Just as not all Democrats are evil, neither are all Republicans.
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> I have friends who are on both sides of political realm and tend to be
a bridge between the two groups. Â I'm a Libertarian by nature,
smaller government, more personal liberty and personal responsibility.
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> The anger and bitterness between the two sides has really gotten to me
this year and I'm just sick of both sides treating the other side as if
they are idiots and stupid. Â BOTH sides have valid points and BOTH
sides have invalid points. Â
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> Until each side learns to respect the other, WE, as a country, will go
nowhere.
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> e pluribus unum.
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> Sincerely, Tom
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> Moderator: Thank you Tom. But, I take issue with some of your notions.
I am a supporter and friend of Megan McCain. Even invited her to my
home. In the Obama group i made clear that I like the idea of
individuals who support gay rights taking over both parties. But, find
me a handful of Republican politicians that will vote to end DADT. Right
now, it is difficult to find "one." Even more outrageous and they admit
it, by saying NO they hope to defeat Obama. Democratics supported George
W Bush. Now it is time for Republicans to support Pres. Obama. It is
suppose to be "country 1st" and "party 2nd.". What happened? Aren't you
a-shamed of not finding republicans who will vote to end DADT? Enough is
enough!!! If you believe I am unfair, I apologize. But, my notion is
that we are a democracy. If republicans do not support my democratic
rights, than they are my enemy and i shall do my best to defeat the
republicans for voting against me. In
> every single state; whereas, they have a republican gov and the
legislature voted to support gay marriage, the govenor vetoed it. What
happened to Democracy? Want the hate to end? Than CALL and write the
republicans and tell them to vote yes on ending DADT. Than we can talk
further. Further, anyone with HIV is automatically turned down for
private health care insurance. The new insurance law changes it. Now
republicans want to take away insurance on individuals with HIV and
pre-exisisting illness? Sorry, I will not stand for it. Hell no, I will
not change my mind. If anything, i will become more bitter. Country will
go no where when you have a "Party of NO." Period!!!...jake
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