Friday, July 29, 2011

Re: [Peckers_Pics] Male/Gay Health-Discussion-PICS Twink Wars-Jul 27, 2011-Boycott Trump-TARGET-FOX NEWS/Murdoch-Salvation Army

Initially i wasn't going to reply, but this is a discussion group and i'd
like to throw my tuppence in, for what it's worth :)

Being British, i'm only dimly aware of American culture and to me, it seems
that the term 'sex-neutral' needs to be defined as it's very open to
interpretation (and therefore abuse). In my opinion, to have a
sexually-neutral attitude/policy (w/e) simply means that everyone is treated
the same, that there is no discrimination or ostracisation. In that context,
i regard myself as having a sex-neutral attitude because we are each
individuals and it is the differences between us which need to be engaged
and embraced, otherwise we would just be like a flock of sheep. However,
humanity dislikes unconformity because it cannot be 'categorised/defined'
(and therefore controlled) easily.

"There is such one district that the parent is taking legal action as the
school practiced s-x neutrality and therefore, did not take a stand when a
child was being bullied for being gay." The issue here is not one of
gender-orientation, but of bullying. If the child had been from an ethnic
minority, the bullies would have been racist but the core issue is still the
bullying due to discrimination, not gender-orientation.

Perhaps there is a political definition of 'sex-neutral' which would differ
from a logical interpretation of the phrase.

Cheers,
Dave McL.

Moderator: Thank you Dave. In the USA and in school systems, s-x nuetral means the teachers do not take a position. They bud out of problems and do not correct the bullying, harrassment. Being nuetral is like not taking a position to protect gay people. It is like a teacher acting like Switzerland - Not taking a position. SWitzerland did not put down Hitler nor support Hitler. That is nuetrality. Hence, Gay people would not be protected under nutrality. Therefore, if the teachers do not take the position to teach and protect gay rights and history, than being switzerland simply means the teachers are not getting involved. I hope this helps. ...jake

On 27 July 2011 22:21, BronxBearBud <bronxbearbud@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> "How does one "stay neutral on matters of sexual orientation"? Kids should
> be
> told at the beginning of the school year that all that matters about a
> person
> is that he helps make the world a better place. Everything else (including
> sexual orientation) does not matter."
>
> One stays neutral on matters of sexual orientation by not ascribing any
> particular virtue or detriment to any particular sexual orientation. And
> sexual orientation does matter --it makes us who we are as individuals, and
>
> plays an overwhelmingly significant role in how we interact with other
> individuals in the world around us. And ain't that the stuff of good
> learning?
>
> Moderator: BronxBearBud, so happy to have you in the group. You are exactly
> correct. Sexual Neutrality is "anti-gay" and leads to gay suicide. There is
> such one district that the parent is taking legal action as the school
> practiced s-x neutrality and therefore, did not take a stand when a child
> was being bullied for being gay. The child committed suicide. I saw pics of
> this adorable child and cried. Sexual Neutrality is something that is pushed
> by the tea party. From day 1, students should be taught gay history and
> about ORIENTATION. the HATE NEEDS TO BE ERASED. bullying MUST NOT BE ALLOWED
> NO MATTER WHAT. ....jake
>
> ________________________________
> From: bob <youyong28@gmail.com>
> To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, July 27, 2011 7:32:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Peckers_Pics] Male/Gay Health-Discussion-PICS Twink Wars-Jul
> 27,
> 2011-Boycott Trump-TARGET-FOX NEWS/Murdoch-Salvation Army
>
> How does one "stay neutral on matters of sexual orientation"? Kids should
> be
> told at the beginning of the school year that all that matters about a
> person is
> that he helps make the world a better place. Everything else (including
> sexual
> orientation) does not matter at all.
>
> Love the series of model pictures, led by #1 model Ben Godfre.
>
> Bob
>
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