Warren you got it right on!!
Especially in the case of the Bachmanns!!
Heaven forbid that Mrs. Bachmann ever gets to be president of the U.S.!!
Not only would it put an Inquisition like administration in charge of the United States domestic and foreign policy but it woul cause other extremist groups that are driven by the perversions of their faiths to unleash a hatred of Christians all over the world, and may be the catalyst for the Anti-Christ, Beast
and World Government that will persecute all who do not support it!!!
I know that many in this group etc., don't believe that kind of stuff but many true believers do and they also believe in the separation of church and state as Jesus himself proclaimed:
"Render unto Caesar (the government) the things that are of Caesar (i.e. taxes) and unto God the things that are God's."
(The words in parentheses are my and any theologian's explanation)
God Bless you!!
Butch
P.S. (Separation of Churc and State was brought into being because of the English Civil War which was the Anglican
(but Anglo-catholic (kept some of the Roman catholic practices etc.)
King Charles 1st versus the Puritans (strict Anglicans who wished to have no remenat of catholic practice in the Anglican church (Church of England which is the same as the episcopal Church in the U.S.)
Upon the U.S. declaration of Independence it adopted the idea of separation of church and state.)
Charles ist versus the Puritans
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We must separate out religion itself from the actions of people in the name of religion. That means any religion - judaism, christianity, muslim, eastern religions, etc. In their purest teachings they espouse love, compassion, caring, charity and humanity. They all believe in using faith in a higher authority as the driving force but it is always a driver for these same overarching values. It is people who claim to be high priests of these religions albeit not always the clergy (extremists in good times - but moderates when times are very tough: whatever those priests are called) who have perverted these religions in the name of a variety of intolerant and abusive causes who have been the cause of most of the wars and human strife in the world. They have also perverted the platform of religious beliefs to oppress, ethnic cleanse, destroy human dignity, force their opinions and to torture - often to demand that their interpretation of religious doctrine be the definitive one - i.e. my way or the highway. There is plenty of guilt to go around on most of the major historic religions on this account.
Of course, people are most vulnerable to these dark and destructive messages when they themselves are undergoing economic or social strife - i.e. pre-war Germany. Throughout civilized history, it has often been human nature to avoid realistic reason and prolonged hardship when simplistic thinking and "blame" answers - especially when they come from purported religious leaders or visionaries - are being offered loudly.
The tragedy is that these pretenders become tyrants for their perverted self-serving causes: Hitler, Radovan Karivic, The Taliban, The Catholic Church at many times in their history, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, the list is endless. But it also includes Oral Roberts, Marcus Bachmann and David Duke and all those who would try to cure homosexuality.
My friends, we must be vigiliant against intolerance in this world and we must come down hard on anyone who would espouse intolerance in the name of religion BECAUSE NO RELIGION TEACHES INTOLERANCE, HATRED AND THE DENIAL OF HUMAN DIGNITY. And no one can or should force you to live their beliefs. No One.
Warren
On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Lynn Schornick wrote:
Butch,I keep my mouth (or keyboard) closed most of the time to comments here but I totally disagree with your statement about "religious" people. Ask the Catholics complicit in the killing of hundreds of thousands of Jews and homosexuals during WWII. Consider the depth of depravity of the Inquisition. Consider the damning influence of the Taliban as they insist that everyone lives and believes as they do, just like the American Taliban - the Westboro Baptist Church our of Topeka, Kansas. Consider the rabid religious right who condemn the decency of a compassionate government. "Bad" people? I believe they have been so brainwashed that they believe what they are doing is right. Welcome to pre-war Germany.LynnFrom: stanley blanc <butch_blanc@yahoo.ca>
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Sorry, if people do bad things whether they "claim" to be religious (which mweans going through the motions of belief mainly as many who claims to be Christians commit adultery or other sins for example) or notthey are "bad" people.it is not religion that causes people to do bad things.It is often a contortion of the religion, as in the case with the taliban for example, that may cause "good" people to do bad things, but in any true believer's heart no matter what religion they claim to believe in, they will not physically or menatally hurt anyoneI do see why and where you may be getting this from.There are many hypocrites in many faiths.ButchFrom: Terry Purdue <smooth_op_85@yahoo.com>
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For good people to do bad things, that takes religionFrom: Jake <jakewest_tn@yahoo.com>
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This group is called "Peckers Pics." The English - slang definition of "pecker" is to pluck at the truth. Therefore, we peck at items such as Gay Men's Health, Male Fitness, Gay (LGBT) Politics & Issues. In this section you may peck at each photo in order to decide the winner of the "war of the fittest!" Whereas, you should select the guy that may inspire you to exercise and "get fit!" Warning: This may stoke you!Your participation in discussion of health / news articles - appearing in this message is greatly appreciated.1234566a7891011Thom T., 3412Gary T., 3213Alex Allen14GR WAKE WARS 201115GR WAKE WARS 201116GR WAKE WARS 201117GR WAKE WARS 201117a1819Tim20MCYou Decide!San Diego Pride; July 17, 2011Stoked?San Diego Pride; July 17, 2011Super Stoked?San Diego Pride; July 17, 2011Acutely Stoked?San Diego Pride; July 17, 2011Dangerously Stoked?San Diego Pride; July 17, 2011Oral Roberts Grandson, Randy Roberts Potts, Talks Coming Out GayBy On Top Magazine Staff - July 19, 2011
Randy Roberts Potts, the grandson of televangelist Oral Roberts, is talking for the first time about coming out gay.
In a 30-minute sermon delivered Sunday at Tulsa's All Souls Unitarian Church, Potts talked about his experience as a gay man in an evangelical world.
He told parishioners that a closeted life led his uncle Ronnie to commit suicide, and that he nearly followed in his footsteps.
"I feel the burden of my uncle's death each and every day," Potts said. "I know I can't fix it, but I almost relived his life in every way: marrying young, having children, becoming a teacher, becoming suicidal. All because I was never told his story, because his story as a gay man has been hushed up. This system of mendacity, of bluffing, of pretending, of trying to pray the gay away has already left one casualty in my family and almost caused another."
In an interview with the Tulsa World, Potts said he grew up in the Roberts family compound just north of Oral Roberts University. He was close to his grandmother, Evelyn Roberts, but rarely saw his famous grandfather.
While he knew from an early age that he was attracted to men - and at 18 announced he was bisexual - it wasn't until several years into his marriage to a college girlfriend that he announced he was gay.
"I told my wife a few years later that I had to leave, and we were divorced legally in June of 2006," Potts said. "I have been openly gay ever since."
Potts was ostracized for his decision. He was denied a seat in the family's seating section at his grandparent's funerals.
Roberta Potts, Randy Roberts Potts' mother, told the paper that she and her husband are "no homophobic."
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"But that doesn't mean we approve of his conduct," she added. "We do believe what the Bible says."Every gay and lesbian person who has been lucky enough to survive the turmoil of growing up is a survivor. Survivors always have an obligation to those who will face the same challenges."
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