Hey Chip,
Salvation Army hiring policy upheld by US Supreme Court to win the right to Fire a employee because he is gay.
1. Salvation Army Rescinds Benefits to Gay Partners.
SAN FRANCISCO --– Less than two weeks after Western officials of the Salvation Army decided to extend health benefits to domestic partners in 13 states, the group's national leaders have rescinded the order.
2. Salvation Army's website: the Salvation Army's policies toward homosexuality: "Scripture forbids sexual intimacy between members of the same sex," the Salvation Army's website reads. While the group "does not consider same-sex orientation blameworthy in itself," it suggests that gay followers "embrace celibacy as a way of life."
3. Hiring Policies: The Salvation Army is a Protestant Christian church known for its extensive philanthropy and charity work. It is an international movement that currently works in over a hundred countries.
4., Abortion: The Salvation Army holds to the Christian ideals of chastity before marriage and fidelity within the marriage relationship and, consistent with these ideals, supports measures to prevent crisis pregnancies. It is opposed to abortion as a means of birth control, family planning, sex selection or for any reason of mere convenience to avoid the responsibility for conception. Therefore, when an unwanted pregnancy occurs, The Salvation Army advises that the situation be accepted and that the pregnancy be carried to term, and offers supportive help and assistance with planning.
5. Homosexuality (wilkopedia):
The Salvation Army in the U.S. has been the topic of some controversial discussions about discrimination against homosexuals in their hiring practices.[38][39] The New York Times reported that the Salvation Army believed it had a firm commitment from the White House to issue a regulation that would override local antidiscrimination laws. A disclosure of The Salvation Army's request "outraged some civil rights groups and lawmakers," and resulted in an immediate reversal of a previous promise to honor the request.
The Salvation Army maintains that they were "not trying to get permission to discriminate against hiring gays and lesbians for the majority of its roughly 55,000 jobs and merely wanted a federal regulation that made clear that the charity did not have to ordain sexually active gay ministers and did not have to provide medical benefits to the same-sex partners of employees."[40]
The Salvation Army's position is that because it is a church, Section VII of the U.S. Civil Rights Act of 1964 explicitly guarantees its right to discriminate on the basis of its religious beliefs in its hiring. To reinforce its position, it threatened to close all soup kitchens in New York City when the city government proposed legislation that would require all organizations doing business with it to provide equal benefits to unmarried domestic partners.[41]
In 2001 the Salvation Army sought a change in distribution regulations for the $24 billion in new federal grants and tax deductions for charitable institutions requested by President George W. Bush.[42] The alteration would have denied funds to state and municipal governments if they imposed restrictions on anti-gay hiring practices such as are practiced within the Salvation Army. Controversy arose after the publication of an internal Salvation Army memorandum suggesting that the discrimination provision would be allowed in exchange for the organization's support of the Bush faith-based public works program.[42] Matt Coles, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Lesbian and Gay Rights Task Force, said the implied deal was "really about... the Salvation Army trying to get a license to discriminate using public money."[42] Ultimately, Ari Fleischer, White House press secretary, who denied the existence of a back-room deal, released a statement saying the administration would not, in the words of ABC News, issue the "regulation sought by the church to protect the right of taxpayer-funded religious organizations to discriminate against homosexuals."[42]
6. Yahoo Question:
Does the Salvation Army discriminate against gay people?
The Salvation Army, which receives nearly $300 million a year in U.S. government money, does not discriminate in delivering its services but advocates against imposing "the category of sexual orientation to the list of anti-discrimination protections" by states and cities as well as against "equal benefits to domestic partnership". The Salvation Army does not hire people who are known to be gay and fires those who are gay when legally allowed to do so.
The Salvation Army states "scripture forbids sexual intimacy between members of the same sex. The Salvation Army believes, therefore, that Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy as a way of life" on it's website.
Source(s):
"The notion that the Constitution would compel a religious organization contracting with the state to secularize its ranks is untenable in light of the Supreme Court's recognition that the government may contract with religious organizations for the provision of social services," U.S. District Judge Sidney H. Stein said in a Sept. 30 opinion issued in New York City.
The opinion dismisses parts of a case filed against the Salvation Army and New York officials in 2004 by current and former Salvation Army employees who said they were victims of religious discrimination.
George Washington University Law School professor Ira C. Lupu said Stein's ruling helps the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, which has argued that acceptance of government funding should not change a religious group's hiring policies.
"This opinion very much reaffirms what people in the White House office have been saying," he said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
Why The Salvation Army Doesn't Deserve Your Money
Every holiday season, people open their hearts and wallets for family, friends, and charities alike. Unfortunately, some large organizations who regularly solicit for money are often using funds for political motives or `overhead' costs. In a series of posts, we'll be investigating three popular charities that don't deserve your charity.
Everyone knows the Salvation Army. Whether it's the secondhand goods at their thrift stores or their collection kettles outside department stores, the Salvation Army is ubiquitous to the holiday season.
However, the Salvation Army's virulent opposition to gay rights both in public and through persistent legislative lobbying raises the question how donations intended for the needy are being spent. Many people forget that the Salvation Army is in fact an Evangelical church, and as such, it tends to have a hard-right social agenda.
In fact, the Salvation Army goes so far as to say gay people shouldn't be having sex. You can find this nugget on their website: "Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy as a way of life."
Starting at the beginning of George W. Bush's presidency in 2001, the Salvation Army began lobbying for an exemption to equal labor practices for government-funded faith-based organizations. Why? Because the Salvation Army wanted to continue to discriminate against gays and prevent them from being hired.
In 2004, the Salvation Army threatened to close all its soup kitchens in the New York City area—which would have ended $250 million worth of contracts with the city—if they were forced to offer benefits to same-sex couples. This move would have lost the Salvation Army around $70 million in direct funding from the city and endangered the lives of several thousand people reliant on the Salvation Army.
Was this supposed to be a principled stand? All the homeless people receiving care from the Salvation Army would be turned out on the street. What would have motivated The Salvation Army to make such a callous move? They said that, by offering benefits to same sex couples, they'd be supporting HIV/AIDS because HIV/AIDS is only the product of homosexual intercourse.
AIDS? How does AIDS factor in? Oh yeah, I forgot! Gay people don't suffer from non-gay sex related maladies. If a same sex couple needs health benefits, it must be from all that AIDS they're spreading around. Is there any way to construe this as anything but bigotry?
There's still more, too. The Salvation Army has repeatedly rallied against anti-discrimination laws involving hiring of homosexual employees. They've even tried to block a repeal of sodomy laws in New Zealand. And in Canada a few days ago, the Salvation Army turned down donations of Harry Potter and Twilight toys. The occult connotations of these toys, supposedly, is out of line with their Christian teachings. Harry Potter is Satanic? That's a rather old-hat Evangelical argument, isn't it?
Is this the kind of charity you want to be donating to? More importantly, is this a charity that should be receiving government funding? Sure, the Salvation Army does some noble things. Using charity money and government funding to further an anti-gay, Evangelical agenda is not one of them.
The Salvation Army's tremendous size and omnipresence may provide the illusion of moral rectitude. Sadly, that just isn't the case. There are plenty of wonderful charities out there without hidden political agendas worth donating to instead of the Salvation Army. Check out websites such as Charity Navigator to look for charitable organizations that will spend your money on the causes they support, not political muckery.
See Also: Details of the Salvation Army's rabidly anti-gay politics, The Salvation Army Bans Harry Potter & Twilight Toys, Scratch the Salvation Army off your charity lists, everyone, A Reason Not To Support the Salvation Army This Holiday Season, Mailback to Salvation Army Solicitation for Bigotry, and Salvation Army donations down dramatically this year.
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> Jake, Chip here in Oberlin, Ohio. My next door neighbor collects for the Salvation Army on holidays. He and I get along well. I don't want to contribute next time he's standing at the grocer's ringing the bell, and I want to tell him why. Can you give me documentation about the no-hiring-gays policy that I can share with him?
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