BOTH sides? Tell that to FOX News. Tell that to Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Oprah, Sarah, Rush, whoever you want to tell it to, but don't tell it to me.
I'm tired of hearing it.
The argument isn't polite. Americans aren't being polite. Americans are being competitive. Everything in this country comes down to which loudmouth thinks he has the bigger dick. That's nothing new. That's the single most American idea there has ever been --- oh, besides some mythology about everybody can do whatever they want and have everything they ever desire if they work hard enough for it and have no corporate fukk pulling the rug out from under them or a rich uncle, whichever. I digress.
Tom is probably correct: "Anti-Republican rants" have as much business here as "Anti-Democratic rants" have on a supposed "News" cable channel. But, it's Jake's forum. They're Jake's rules. Jake, in good conscience, has made his choice. And he provides information as he chooses.
GOOD ON HIM! At least he's presenting another side. The side that is not beholden to the corporate interests of any advertisers paying his salary. His side. His viewpoint. He has an opportunity to try and persuade, and he's exercising it.
No member of this forum has to read Jake's information. No member has to agree with a political viewpoint to look at the photos of muscular, good-looking men. That's what the scroll bar is for.
It interests me that the subject is always couched by people, self-identified as Republicans, or, Libertarians, if they want to fit in with artists, and Independents, if they want to fit in with CEOS, who insist on using language about the blame on BOTH sides, while we have one side, clearly, with intent and desire to deceive, allowed to demonize and slander as if they're holding the nation's scrotum. Fix FOX. Otherwise, we need the equally-intent and passionate other hand fighting for the rudder.
Thanks, Jake.
Mack
Moderator: Thank you Mack and well stated. One thing I forgot is that I do not write the news articles. I neglected to mention that to Tom. These artciles are taken from AP, Times, Wall Street Journal and some local news newspapers and LGBT news sources (however, i do check to make sure that the articles have been covered by times, Ap, etc, as well. The articles are not my personal words. Do not reflect my opinion at all times. Perhaps the person is looking for Bill O'reailly, Glenn Beck, Fox News. Well, sorry, that is not real news and Mack is right. Again, let us watch 100% of democratics vote for ending DADT and let us struggle to find, 1, or 2 maybe 3 republicans that vote to end DADT. Now, to me, that means that republicans are anti-gay if they will not vote to allow to gays to openly serve in the miliary. And take away health Insurance for people with HIV and other pre-exisiting ilness that has been established by the the democratics? That is not human. That is the work of the devil attempting to wipe us off the planet. Now those are my words. Lastly, some health articles i do write and are non-partison. ....jake
-----Original Message-----
From: tom s <tompa1970@yahoo.com>
To: Peckers_Pics <Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:16 pm
Subject: [Peckers_Pics] Person Comments
Dear Jake and everybody,
I would like to express a growing concern and frustration that I have. I have chosen to join several of Jakes yahoo groups for 2 reasons. The first, of course, are the hot pics. And the second? for the health and fitness tips that they profess to give.
However, I have frequently found the text, which is supposed to be about health and wellness, disintegrating into anti-Republican rants. Just as not all Democrats are evil, neither are all Republicans.
I have friends who are on both sides of political realm and tend to be a bridge between the two groups. I'm a Libertarian by nature, smaller government, more personal liberty and personal responsibility.
The anger and bitterness between the two sides has really gotten to me this year and I'm just sick of both sides treating the other side as if they are idiots and stupid. BOTH sides have valid points and BOTH sides have invalid points.
Until each side learns to respect the other, WE, as a country, will go nowhere.
e pluribus unum.
Sincerely, Tom
Moderator: Thank you Tom. But, I take issue with some of your notions. I am a supporter and friend of Megan McCain. Even invited her to my home. In the Obama group i made clear that I like the idea of individuals who support gay rights taking over both parties. But, find me a handful of Republican politicians that will vote to end DADT. Right now, it is difficult to find "one." Even more outrageous and they admit it, by saying NO they hope to defeat Obama. Democratics supported George W Bush. Now it is time for Republicans to support Pres. Obama. It is suppose to be "country 1st" and "party 2nd.". What happened? Aren't you a-shamed of not finding republicans who will vote to end DADT? Enough is enough!!! If you believe I am unfair, I apologize. But, my notion is that we are a democracy. If republicans do not support my democratic rights, than they are my enemy and i shall do my best to defeat the republicans for voting against me. In every single state; whereas, they have a republican gov and the legislature voted to support gay marriage, the govenor vetoed it. What happened to Democracy? Want the hate to end? Than CALL and write the republicans and tell them to vote yes on ending DADT. Than we can talk further. Further, anyone with HIV is automatically turned down for private health care insurance. The new insurance law changes it. Now republicans want to take away insurance on individuals with HIV and pre-exisisting illness? Sorry, I will not stand for it. Hell no, I will not change my mind. If anything, i will become more bitter. Country will go no where when you have a "Party of NO." Period!!!...jake
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