o sorry, i ment GOProud
i don't hate them, i get pissed at them for not answering my questions and for their vision of "rights". my emails are not mean or insulting I simply don't understand and they won't help me understand.
Someone on Towelroad stated in the comments about how they believe GOProud is working harder to gain gay rights then left leaning groups. according to him GOProud is destroying the closet so more people will come out and move things forward...
Someone on Towelroad stated in the comments about how they believe GOProud is working harder to gain gay rights then left leaning groups. according to him GOProud is destroying the closet so more people will come out and move things forward...
-----Original Message-----
From: Trevor Scott <trevors02@gmail.com>
To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:57 am
Subject: Re: [Peckers_Pics] Twink Wars, PICS; Feb 13, 2011-Safe PICS For All Ages, Rated G
From: Trevor Scott <trevors02@gmail.com>
To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Feb 13, 2011 5:57 am
Subject: Re: [Peckers_Pics] Twink Wars, PICS; Feb 13, 2011-Safe PICS For All Ages, Rated G
So who's "them?" Moderator: perhaps he should have been more specific; but the member was refering refering to the article in the Twink Wars. Believe he was refering to GOProud. Please read the article. Interesting reading. .....jake On 2/12/11, ifctv1@aol.com <ifctv1@aol.com> wrote: > > I can't stand them, i have email them 3 times in the past 2 months asking > them to explain where they stand on DOMA. they believe in states rights and > allowing them to decide the issue of same sex marriage. Nothing back. they > believed in the repeal of DADT but did they help? im guessing no after > reading this article. If its not "political" taxes, war and defense i guess > they don't care but will indulge when it's offered i.e. he's married. > I wonder, when they say "up to the states" do they mean the people or is it > "OK" if the state government grants something. What do they think of the > ongoing prop 8 case. on their web site they want to rain in "activist > judges", they won't answer that either. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake <jakewest_tn@yahoo.com> > To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, Feb 12, 2011 5:42 pm > Subject: [Peckers_Pics] Twink Wars, PICS; Feb 13, 2011-Safe PICS For All > Ages, Rated G > > > > > > Twink Wars, PICS; Feb 12, 2011 > Safe PICS For All Ages, Rated G / "We Support Keith Olbermann" > > Updates on slain gay activist - David Kato of Uganda @ ObamaBiden2008 > Updates on Keith Olberman @ ObamaBiden2008 > Boycott: Chick-fil-a as they are against gay marriage and donate to anti-gay > causes. > > Consider joining: > Members should join our President Barack Obama group . (Health Care & Gay > Rights, Gay Marriage, Repeal DOMA, Don't Ask & Don't Tell) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ObamaBiden2008/join > Wrestling Pic group @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CyberWrestlingGuys/join > Bearhug Yahoo PIC Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bearhug/join > HeadLock HeadScissor @ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HeadLockAndHeadScissorsWrestling/join > Heath Ledger group @ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HeathLedgerTributeSite/join > Bearhug Submission - Roommates: Ben vs. Ryan & then meet the guys at > Sean's. (Episode 115 ) (Wrestling fiction). Your Yahoo Profile must include > Age, Gender, Location (to the public) before you apply for membership!: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BearhugSubmission_/join > > Diet & Fitness: > > Reminder: Did you complete your Diet Journal today? > > Did you do any physical activity? If not, make a point of it by tomorrow! > > Perhaps our male fitness photos shall inspire you to get Fit! > > > Health - Wellness - Exercise - Reflections: > > Find a Fun Cold-Weather Exercise > > Yes, it's cold outside… and that can make it harder to keep up with your > exercise regimen. Who wants to cycle in the rain or do a 20-minute walk past > snow banks? > > But don't give up – to prevent diabetes complications and keep type 2 > diabetes at bay, you should continue to exercise a minimum of 30 minutes > most days. Here are some ways to continue your routine when the temps begin > to topple: > > Find a mall-walker program in your area. The doors open early, and you can > get your brisk 30 minutes in while you window shop. > > Try an exercise DVD. Great DVDs provide the instructor, music and visuals > right there in your toasty living room. > > Try a new class. If you're normally an outdoors exerciser, use the colder > weather as the push you need to try a formal class. You can try ballroom > dancing, kickboxing, martial arts, yoga, hula dancing -- anything you've > always wanted to learn that will get your hips or body moving. > > Exercise in short bursts. If you can't do 30 minutes straight, do 10-minute > spurts. Dance in front of the TV; walk up and down your home stairs; lift > your 5-pound laundry detergent bottle for several reps. > > Give in to winter. If all else fails, throw on a hat or hoodie and try the > season's popular sports: snow-shoeing, snowboarding and ice skating are all > perfect for lovers of the white stuff. You might enjoy it so much you'll be > looking forward to winter exercise next year. > > Of course, always check with your doctor before starting a new exercise > program. > > > > Members should join our President Barack Obama group . (Health Care & Gay > Rights, Gay Marriage, Repeal DOMA, Don't Ask & Don't Tell) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ObamaBiden2008/join > Wrestling Pic group @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CyberWrestlingGuys/join > Bearhug Yahoo PIC Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bearhug/join > HeadLock HeadScissor @ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HeadLockAndHeadScissorsWrestling/join > Heath Ledger group @ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HeathLedgerTributeSite/join > Bearhug Submission - Roommates: Ben vs. Ryan & then meet the guys at > Sean's. (Episode 115 ) (Wrestling fiction). Your Yahoo Profile must include > Age, Gender, Location (to the public) before you apply for membership!: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BearhugSubmission_/join > > Diet & Fitness: > > Reminder: Did you complete your Diet Journal today? > > Did you do any physical activity? If not, make a point of it by tomorrow! > > Perhaps our male fitness photos shall inspire you to get Fit! > > > Health - Wellness - Exercise - Reflections: > > Find a Fun Cold-Weather Exercise > > Yes, it's cold outside… and that can make it harder to keep up with your > exercise regimen. Who wants to cycle in the rain or do a 20-minute walk past > snow banks? > > But don't give up – to prevent diabetes complications and keep type 2 > diabetes at bay, you should continue to exercise a minimum of 30 minutes > most days. Here are some ways to continue your routine when the temps begin > to topple: > > Find a mall-walker program in your area. The doors open early, and you can > get your brisk 30 minutes in while you window shop. > > Try an exercise DVD. Great DVDs provide the instructor, music and visuals > right there in your toasty living room. > > Try a new class. If you're normally an outdoors exerciser, use the colder > weather as the push you need to try a formal class. You can try ballroom > dancing, kickboxing, martial arts, yoga, hula dancing -- anything you've > always wanted to learn that will get your hips or body moving. > > Exercise in short bursts. If you can't do 30 minutes straight, do 10-minute > spurts. Dance in front of the TV; walk up and down your home stairs; lift > your 5-pound laundry detergent bottle for several reps. > > Give in to winter. If all else fails, throw on a hat or hoodie and try the > season's popular sports: snow-shoeing, snowboarding and ice skating are all > perfect for lovers of the white stuff. You might enjoy it so much you'll be > looking forward to winter exercise next year. > > Of course, always check with your doctor before starting a new exercise > program. > > > Take Action: > Boycott advertisers of Glenn Beck - Fox News. Glenn Beck is anti-gay > rights. > Update: DADT has been repealed. President Obama has kept his promise! > Boycott Bill O'Reilly and FOX News and their advertisers. Bill discussed a > French commercial by McDonalds that was meant to show that McDonalds is Gay > Friendly. Bill said what is next? Is McDonalds going to be Al-Qaida friendly > as well? Imagine - Bill O'Reilly compares Gays to Al-Qaida! > Boycott Arizona the home of "hater" - U.S. Senator John McCain. Arizona's > Hateful anti-Immigration Law - encourages racial profiling and increases > hatred towards minorities. A remedy: Demand Republicans to support > Immigration Reform (The Dream Act). Further, Senator McCain voted against > ending DADT and Blocked Immigration reform! > Boycott Target, Best Buy, Gold's Gym - for donating money towards anti-gay > political candidates/organizations. Update: (12/26/2010): Target is > continuing to donate to anti-gay groups/causes/politicians. > End DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act). Prevents Federal employees and Gays in > the Military from gaining equal benefits. Prevents Gay Partners from gaining > equal benefits. > Pass ENDA (Employee Non-Discrimination Act). ENDA would prevent employment > discrimination of LGBT workforce. > Boycott Salvation Army as they will not hire Gays! "DO NOT DONATE TO THEM." > BOYCOTT - Chick-fil-a for donating to anti-gay marriage groups. > Remember David Kato, Gay activist - Uganda, who was slain because he is gay! > And Now, Our War of the Fittest! > This group is called "Peckers Pics." The English - slang definition of > "pecker" is to pluck at the truth. Therefore, we peck at items such as Gay > Men's Health, Male Fitness, Gay (LGBT) Politics & Issues. In this section > you may peck at each photo in order to decide the winner of the "war of the > fittest!" Whereas, you should select the guy that may inspire you to > exercise and "get fit!" Warning: This may stoke you! > > > Your participation in discussion of health / news articles - appearing in > this message is greatly appreciated. > > > 1 > > 2 > > 3 > > 4 > (He is featured in group pic #3 as well) > > 5 > Christopher > > 6 > Eduardo > > 7 > Vincente > > 8 > > 9 > > 10 > > 11 > > 12 > > 13 > > 14 > Jake Cuenca > > 15 > Mark John Sellado > > 16 > Joshua > > 17 > Derek Ramos > > 18 > > 19 > > 20 > > 21 > > 22 > > 23 > > 24 > Chase By Joey Wong > > 24a > > 25 > Brian Kehoe > > 26 > David Sederholm > > 27 > > 28 > Evandro Soldati > > 29 > > 30 > > 31 > Ryan Mathew White > > You Decide! > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > Stoked? > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > GOProud's Chris Barron Draws Hard Lines on the Left and Right > > Alex Becker / Huffington Post / February 12, 2011 > > In an interview with the Huffington Post Saturday morning, Christopher > Barron, co-founder and board chairman of the gay conservative advocacy group > GOProud, clearly laid out the group's position vis-à-vis Democrats, and what > conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart has labeled as, "the activist gay > left." "Generally 95% of our hate mail and our criticism comes from the > left," says Barron, "the tolerance and diversity crowd on the left has > absolutely no tolerance for diversity of ideological views." > > This "diversity of ideological views" according to GOProud and Barron, > extends to conservative issues not traditionally placed under the banner of > "gay rights." We think gay rights includes taxes and things like the fair > tax, and free market health care reform, personal savings accounts and > social security and fighting the spread of radical, anti-gay Islam," Barron > says, "the left may not like them or think that they're gay rights issues, > but we think they are. > > When asked why he believed most people, gay and straight, associate gay > rights issues with liberals, Barron placed the blame more on messaging than > policy. I don't blame people for thinking that liberals are the only ones > who are pro-gay," Barron says, "because there's been no effort before by gay > conservatives to stand up and say that there's a different way forward." > > Despite popular beliefs on the left-leaning politics of the many gays and > lesbians, Barron points to the diverse political make up of the GLBT > community as evidence that the conservative message has resonated with them > in the past, and can do so in the future. "The gay population really isn't > monolithic and we see these swings in the gay vote," Barron says, citing > that the percentage of gay voters voting conservative has been "as low as 17 > or 18 percent in 2004 for President Bush's reelect, all the way up to 31% > this past time and in fact, in '94 during the Republican Revolution, it got > as high as 40%." > > The question of what issues and policies are defined as "pro" or "anti" gay, > has been key to GOProud's message and what Barron views as the group's > ultimate mission. In contrast with many better known gay rights > organizations, Barron claims that GOProud is "not looking for fairness and > inclusiveness and equality and tolerance and all this." He defines the > group's goal as more concrete and more political, saying "we want to make it > clear that conservative policy solutions are good for gay and lesbian > families [and] that they would improve their everyday lives." > > Despite the rising profile of both GOProud and gay conservatives, questions > of tolerance and inclusiveness have arisen mainly in regard to > conservatives, in the wake of decisions by well-known conservative > organizations such as the Family Research Council, Heritage Foundation and > Concerned Women for America to boycott CPAC due to GOProud's sponsorship of > the event. Here Barron says, it's important to draw a distinction between > those, such as conservative commentator Ann Coulter, who have "strong" but > "honest" policy disagreements with GOProud, and those who take a "we don't > want to be in the same room as the gays" approach. Those conservative groups > which do oppose GOProud on anti-gay grounds, Barron says, are "dressing up > their position that they don't want us [GOProud] here, in the window > dressing of protecting marriage." > > When asked about the possibility of common ground between liberal and > conservative members of the GLBT community, Barron seemed skeptical, saying > "I don't know. The left thinks that common ground is, especially the gay > left, 'Here's what we think and we welcome you to come and agree with us.' > That's not our idea of common ground." Barron cites the specific example of > a lack of Democratic support for allowing the purchase of insurance across > state lines, which he says would benefit gay couples in states without > strong domestic partner benefits, as evidence of gay liberals "follow[ing] > blindly whatever the Democratic Party tells them to do. Why else, Barron > asks, "would the gay left oppose something as common sense as that?" > > > > "Every gay and lesbian person who has been lucky enough to survive the > turmoil of growing up is a survivor. Survivors always have an obligation to > those who will face the same challenges." > > ....Jake > > > > This group is called "Peckers Pics." The English - slang definition of > "pecker" is to pluck at the truth. Therefore, we peck at items such as Gay > Men's Health, Male Fitness, Gay (LGBT) Politics & Issues. In this section > you may peck at each photo in order to decide the winner of the "war of the > fittest!" Whereas, you should select the guy that may inspire you to > exercise and "get fit!" Warning: This may stoke you! > > > Your participation in discussion of health / news articles - appearing in > this message is greatly appreciated. > > > 1 > > 2 > > 3 > > 4 > (He is featured in group pic #3 as well) > > 5 > Christopher > > 6 > Eduardo > > 7 > Vincente > > 8 > > 9 > > 10 > > 11 > > 12 > > 13 > > 14 > Jake Cuenca > > 15 > Mark John Sellado > > 16 > Joshua > > 17 > Derek Ramos > > 18 > > 19 > > 20 > > 21 > > 22 > > 23 > > 24 > Chase By Joey Wong > > 24a > > 25 > Brian Kehoe > > 26 > David Sederholm > > 27 > > 28 > Evandro Soldati > > 29 > > 30 > > 31 > Ryan Mathew White > > You Decide! > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > Stoked? > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > GOProud's Chris Barron Draws Hard Lines on the Left and Right > > Alex Becker / Huffington Post / February 12, 2011 > > In an interview with the Huffington Post Saturday morning, Christopher > Barron, co-founder and board chairman of the gay conservative advocacy group > GOProud, clearly laid out the group's position vis-à-vis Democrats, and what > conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart has labeled as, "the activist gay > left." "Generally 95% of our hate mail and our criticism comes from the > left," says Barron, "the tolerance and diversity crowd on the left has > absolutely no tolerance for diversity of ideological views." > > This "diversity of ideological views" according to GOProud and Barron, > extends to conservative issues not traditionally placed under the banner of > "gay rights." We think gay rights includes taxes and things like the fair > tax, and free market health care reform, personal savings accounts and > social security and fighting the spread of radical, anti-gay Islam," Barron > says, "the left may not like them or think that they're gay rights issues, > but we think they are. > > When asked why he believed most people, gay and straight, associate gay > rights issues with liberals, Barron placed the blame more on messaging than > policy. I don't blame people for thinking that liberals are the only ones > who are pro-gay," Barron says, "because there's been no effort before by gay > conservatives to stand up and say that there's a different way forward." > > Despite popular beliefs on the left-leaning politics of the many gays and > lesbians, Barron points to the diverse political make up of the GLBT > community as evidence that the conservative message has resonated with them > in the past, and can do so in the future. "The gay population really isn't > monolithic and we see these swings in the gay vote," Barron says, citing > that the percentage of gay voters voting conservative has been "as low as 17 > or 18 percent in 2004 for President Bush's reelect, all the way up to 31% > this past time and in fact, in '94 during the Republican Revolution, it got > as high as 40%." > > The question of what issues and policies are defined as "pro" or "anti" gay, > has been key to GOProud's message and what Barron views as the group's > ultimate mission. In contrast with many better known gay rights > organizations, Barron claims that GOProud is "not looking for fairness and > inclusiveness and equality and tolerance and all this." He defines the > group's goal as more concrete and more political, saying "we want to make it > clear that conservative policy solutions are good for gay and lesbian > families [and] that they would improve their everyday lives." > > Despite the rising profile of both GOProud and gay conservatives, questions > of tolerance and inclusiveness have arisen mainly in regard to > conservatives, in the wake of decisions by well-known conservative > organizations such as the Family Research Council, Heritage Foundation and > Concerned Women for America to boycott CPAC due to GOProud's sponsorship of > the event. Here Barron says, it's important to draw a distinction between > those, such as conservative commentator Ann Coulter, who have "strong" but > "honest" policy disagreements with GOProud, and those who take a "we don't > want to be in the same room as the gays" approach. Those conservative groups > which do oppose GOProud on anti-gay grounds, Barron says, are "dressing up > their position that they don't want us [GOProud] here, in the window > dressing of protecting marriage." > > When asked about the possibility of common ground between liberal and > conservative members of the GLBT community, Barron seemed skeptical, saying > "I don't know. The left thinks that common ground is, especially the gay > left, 'Here's what we think and we welcome you to come and agree with us.' > That's not our idea of common ground." Barron cites the specific example of > a lack of Democratic support for allowing the purchase of insurance across > state lines, which he says would benefit gay couples in states without > strong domestic partner benefits, as evidence of gay liberals "follow[ing] > blindly whatever the Democratic Party tells them to do. Why else, Barron > asks, "would the gay left oppose something as common sense as that?" > > > > "Every gay and lesbian person who has been lucky enough to survive the > turmoil of growing up is a survivor. Survivors always have an obligation to > those who will face the same challenges." > > ....Jake > > > > Boycott Arizona the home of "hater" - U.S. Senator John McCain. Arizona's > Hateful anti-Immigration Law - encourages racial profiling and increases > hatred towards minorities. A remedy: Demand Republicans to support > Immigration Reform (The Dream Act). Further, Senator McCain voted against > ending DADT and Blocked Immigration reform! > Boycott Target, Best Buy, Gold's Gym - for donating money towards anti-gay > political candidates/organizations. Update: (12/26/2010): Target is > continuing to donate to anti-gay groups/causes/politicians. > End DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act). Prevents Federal employees and Gays in > the Military from gaining equal benefits. Prevents Gay Partners from gaining > equal benefits. > Pass ENDA (Employee Non-Discrimination Act). ENDA would prevent employment > discrimination of LGBT workforce. > Boycott Salvation Army as they will not hire Gays! "DO NOT DONATE TO THEM." > BOYCOTT - Chick-fil-a for donating to anti-gay marriage groups. > Remember David Kato, Gay activist - Uganda, who was slain because he is gay! > And Now, Our War of the Fittest! > This group is called "Peckers Pics." The English - slang definition of > "pecker" is to pluck at the truth. Therefore, we peck at items such as Gay > Men's Health, Male Fitness, Gay (LGBT) Politics & Issues. In this section > you may peck at each photo in order to decide the winner of the "war of the > fittest!" Whereas, you should select the guy that may inspire you to > exercise and "get fit!" Warning: This may stoke you! > > > Your participation in discussion of health / news articles - appearing in > this message is greatly appreciated. > > > 1 > > 2 > > 3 > > 4 > (He is featured in group pic #3 as well) > > 5 > Christopher > > 6 > Eduardo > > 7 > Vincente > > 8 > > 9 > > 10 > > 11 > > 12 > > 13 > > 14 > Jake Cuenca > > 15 > Mark John Sellado > > 16 > Joshua > > 17 > Derek Ramos > > 18 > > 19 > > 20 > > 21 > > 22 > > 23 > > 24 > Chase By Joey Wong > > 24a > > 25 > Brian Kehoe > > 26 > David Sederholm > > 27 > > 28 > Evandro Soldati > > 29 > > 30 > > 31 > Ryan Mathew White > > You Decide! > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > Stoked? > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > GOProud's Chris Barron Draws Hard Lines on the Left and Right > > Alex Becker / Huffington Post / February 12, 2011 > > In an interview with the Huffington Post Saturday morning, Christopher > Barron, co-founder and board chairman of the gay conservative advocacy group > GOProud, clearly laid out the group's position vis-à-vis Democrats, and what > conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart has labeled as, "the activist gay > left." "Generally 95% of our hate mail and our criticism comes from the > left," says Barron, "the tolerance and diversity crowd on the left has > absolutely no tolerance for diversity of ideological views." > > This "diversity of ideological views" according to GOProud and Barron, > extends to conservative issues not traditionally placed under the banner of > "gay rights." We think gay rights includes taxes and things like the fair > tax, and free market health care reform, personal savings accounts and > social security and fighting the spread of radical, anti-gay Islam," Barron > says, "the left may not like them or think that they're gay rights issues, > but we think they are. > > When asked why he believed most people, gay and straight, associate gay > rights issues with liberals, Barron placed the blame more on messaging than > policy. I don't blame people for thinking that liberals are the only ones > who are pro-gay," Barron says, "because there's been no effort before by gay > conservatives to stand up and say that there's a different way forward." > > Despite popular beliefs on the left-leaning politics of the many gays and > lesbians, Barron points to the diverse political make up of the GLBT > community as evidence that the conservative message has resonated with them > in the past, and can do so in the future. "The gay population really isn't > monolithic and we see these swings in the gay vote," Barron says, citing > that the percentage of gay voters voting conservative has been "as low as 17 > or 18 percent in 2004 for President Bush's reelect, all the way up to 31% > this past time and in fact, in '94 during the Republican Revolution, it got > as high as 40%." > > The question of what issues and policies are defined as "pro" or "anti" gay, > has been key to GOProud's message and what Barron views as the group's > ultimate mission. In contrast with many better known gay rights > organizations, Barron claims that GOProud is "not looking for fairness and > inclusiveness and equality and tolerance and all this." He defines the > group's goal as more concrete and more political, saying "we want to make it > clear that conservative policy solutions are good for gay and lesbian > families [and] that they would improve their everyday lives." > > Despite the rising profile of both GOProud and gay conservatives, questions > of tolerance and inclusiveness have arisen mainly in regard to > conservatives, in the wake of decisions by well-known conservative > organizations such as the Family Research Council, Heritage Foundation and > Concerned Women for America to boycott CPAC due to GOProud's sponsorship of > the event. Here Barron says, it's important to draw a distinction between > those, such as conservative commentator Ann Coulter, who have "strong" but > "honest" policy disagreements with GOProud, and those who take a "we don't > want to be in the same room as the gays" approach. Those conservative groups > which do oppose GOProud on anti-gay grounds, Barron says, are "dressing up > their position that they don't want us [GOProud] here, in the window > dressing of protecting marriage." > > When asked about the possibility of common ground between liberal and > conservative members of the GLBT community, Barron seemed skeptical, saying > "I don't know. The left thinks that common ground is, especially the gay > left, 'Here's what we think and we welcome you to come and agree with us.' > That's not our idea of common ground." Barron cites the specific example of > a lack of Democratic support for allowing the purchase of insurance across > state lines, which he says would benefit gay couples in states without > strong domestic partner benefits, as evidence of gay liberals "follow[ing] > blindly whatever the Democratic Party tells them to do. Why else, Barron > asks, "would the gay left oppose something as common sense as that?" > > > > "Every gay and lesbian person who has been lucky enough to survive the > turmoil of growing up is a survivor. Survivors always have an obligation to > those who will face the same challenges." > > ....Jake > > > > This group is called "Peckers Pics." The English - slang definition of > "pecker" is to pluck at the truth. Therefore, we peck at items such as Gay > Men's Health, Male Fitness, Gay (LGBT) Politics & Issues. In this section > you may peck at each photo in order to decide the winner of the "war of the > fittest!" Whereas, you should select the guy that may inspire you to > exercise and "get fit!" Warning: This may stoke you! > > > Your participation in discussion of health / news articles - appearing in > this message is greatly appreciated. > > > 1 > > 2 > > 3 > > 4 > (He is featured in group pic #3 as well) > > 5 > Christopher > > 6 > Eduardo > > 7 > Vincente > > 8 > > 9 > > 10 > > 11 > > 12 > > 13 > > 14 > Jake Cuenca > > 15 > Mark John Sellado > > 16 > Joshua > > 17 > Derek Ramos > > 18 > > 19 > > 20 > > 21 > > 22 > > 23 > > 24 > Chase By Joey Wong > > 24a > > 25 > Brian Kehoe > > 26 > David Sederholm > > 27 > > 28 > Evandro Soldati > > 29 > > 30 > > 31 > Ryan Mathew White > > You Decide! > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > Stoked? > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > GOProud's Chris Barron Draws Hard Lines on the Left and Right > > Alex Becker / Huffington Post / February 12, 2011 > > In an interview with the Huffington Post Saturday morning, Christopher > Barron, co-founder and board chairman of the gay conservative advocacy group > GOProud, clearly laid out the group's position vis-à-vis Democrats, and what > conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart has labeled as, "the activist gay > left." "Generally 95% of our hate mail and our criticism comes from the > left," says Barron, "the tolerance and diversity crowd on the left has > absolutely no tolerance for diversity of ideological views." > > This "diversity of ideological views" according to GOProud and Barron, > extends to conservative issues not traditionally placed under the banner of > "gay rights." We think gay rights includes taxes and things like the fair > tax, and free market health care reform, personal savings accounts and > social security and fighting the spread of radical, anti-gay Islam," Barron > says, "the left may not like them or think that they're gay rights issues, > but we think they are. > > When asked why he believed most people, gay and straight, associate gay > rights issues with liberals, Barron placed the blame more on messaging than > policy. I don't blame people for thinking that liberals are the only ones > who are pro-gay," Barron says, "because there's been no effort before by gay > conservatives to stand up and say that there's a different way forward." > > Despite popular beliefs on the left-leaning politics of the many gays and > lesbians, Barron points to the diverse political make up of the GLBT > community as evidence that the conservative message has resonated with them > in the past, and can do so in the future. "The gay population really isn't > monolithic and we see these swings in the gay vote," Barron says, citing > that the percentage of gay voters voting conservative has been "as low as 17 > or 18 percent in 2004 for President Bush's reelect, all the way up to 31% > this past time and in fact, in '94 during the Republican Revolution, it got > as high as 40%." > > The question of what issues and policies are defined as "pro" or "anti" gay, > has been key to GOProud's message and what Barron views as the group's > ultimate mission. In contrast with many better known gay rights > organizations, Barron claims that GOProud is "not looking for fairness and > inclusiveness and equality and tolerance and all this." He defines the > group's goal as more concrete and more political, saying "we want to make it > clear that conservative policy solutions are good for gay and lesbian > families [and] that they would improve their everyday lives." > > Despite the rising profile of both GOProud and gay conservatives, questions > of tolerance and inclusiveness have arisen mainly in regard to > conservatives, in the wake of decisions by well-known conservative > organizations such as the Family Research Council, Heritage Foundation and > Concerned Women for America to boycott CPAC due to GOProud's sponsorship of > the event. Here Barron says, it's important to draw a distinction between > those, such as conservative commentator Ann Coulter, who have "strong" but > "honest" policy disagreements with GOProud, and those who take a "we don't > want to be in the same room as the gays" approach. Those conservative groups > which do oppose GOProud on anti-gay grounds, Barron says, are "dressing up > their position that they don't want us [GOProud] here, in the window > dressing of protecting marriage." > > When asked about the possibility of common ground between liberal and > conservative members of the GLBT community, Barron seemed skeptical, saying > "I don't know. The left thinks that common ground is, especially the gay > left, 'Here's what we think and we welcome you to come and agree with us.' > That's not our idea of common ground." Barron cites the specific example of > a lack of Democratic support for allowing the purchase of insurance across > state lines, which he says would benefit gay couples in states without > strong domestic partner benefits, as evidence of gay liberals "follow[ing] > blindly whatever the Democratic Party tells them to do. Why else, Barron > asks, "would the gay left oppose something as common sense as that?" > > > > "Every gay and lesbian person who has been lucky enough to survive the > turmoil of growing up is a survivor. Survivors always have an obligation to > those who will face the same challenges." > > ....Jake > > > > And Now, Our War of the Fittest! > This group is called "Peckers Pics." The English - slang definition of > "pecker" is to pluck at the truth. Therefore, we peck at items such as Gay > Men's Health, Male Fitness, Gay (LGBT) Politics & Issues. In this section > you may peck at each photo in order to decide the winner of the "war of the > fittest!" Whereas, you should select the guy that may inspire you to > exercise and "get fit!" Warning: This may stoke you! > > > Your participation in discussion of health / news articles - appearing in > this message is greatly appreciated. > > > 1 > > 2 > > 3 > > 4 > (He is featured in group pic #3 as well) > > 5 > Christopher > > 6 > Eduardo > > 7 > Vincente > > 8 > > 9 > > 10 > > 11 > > 12 > > 13 > > 14 > Jake Cuenca > > 15 > Mark John Sellado > > 16 > Joshua > > 17 > Derek Ramos > > 18 > > 19 > > 20 > > 21 > > 22 > > 23 > > 24 > Chase By Joey Wong > > 24a > > 25 > Brian Kehoe > > 26 > David Sederholm > > 27 > > 28 > Evandro Soldati > > 29 > > 30 > > 31 > Ryan Mathew White > > You Decide! > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > Stoked? > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > GOProud's Chris Barron Draws Hard Lines on the Left and Right > > Alex Becker / Huffington Post / February 12, 2011 > > In an interview with the Huffington Post Saturday morning, Christopher > Barron, co-founder and board chairman of the gay conservative advocacy group > GOProud, clearly laid out the group's position vis-à-vis Democrats, and what > conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart has labeled as, "the activist gay > left." "Generally 95% of our hate mail and our criticism comes from the > left," says Barron, "the tolerance and diversity crowd on the left has > absolutely no tolerance for diversity of ideological views." > > This "diversity of ideological views" according to GOProud and Barron, > extends to conservative issues not traditionally placed under the banner of > "gay rights." We think gay rights includes taxes and things like the fair > tax, and free market health care reform, personal savings accounts and > social security and fighting the spread of radical, anti-gay Islam," Barron > says, "the left may not like them or think that they're gay rights issues, > but we think they are. > > When asked why he believed most people, gay and straight, associate gay > rights issues with liberals, Barron placed the blame more on messaging than > policy. I don't blame people for thinking that liberals are the only ones > who are pro-gay," Barron says, "because there's been no effort before by gay > conservatives to stand up and say that there's a different way forward." > > Despite popular beliefs on the left-leaning politics of the many gays and > lesbians, Barron points to the diverse political make up of the GLBT > community as evidence that the conservative message has resonated with them > in the past, and can do so in the future. "The gay population really isn't > monolithic and we see these swings in the gay vote," Barron says, citing > that the percentage of gay voters voting conservative has been "as low as 17 > or 18 percent in 2004 for President Bush's reelect, all the way up to 31% > this past time and in fact, in '94 during the Republican Revolution, it got > as high as 40%." > > The question of what issues and policies are defined as "pro" or "anti" gay, > has been key to GOProud's message and what Barron views as the group's > ultimate mission. In contrast with many better known gay rights > organizations, Barron claims that GOProud is "not looking for fairness and > inclusiveness and equality and tolerance and all this." He defines the > group's goal as more concrete and more political, saying "we want to make it > clear that conservative policy solutions are good for gay and lesbian > families [and] that they would improve their everyday lives." > > Despite the rising profile of both GOProud and gay conservatives, questions > of tolerance and inclusiveness have arisen mainly in regard to > conservatives, in the wake of decisions by well-known conservative > organizations such as the Family Research Council, Heritage Foundation and > Concerned Women for America to boycott CPAC due to GOProud's sponsorship of > the event. Here Barron says, it's important to draw a distinction between > those, such as conservative commentator Ann Coulter, who have "strong" but > "honest" policy disagreements with GOProud, and those who take a "we don't > want to be in the same room as the gays" approach. Those conservative groups > which do oppose GOProud on anti-gay grounds, Barron says, are "dressing up > their position that they don't want us [GOProud] here, in the window > dressing of protecting marriage." > > When asked about the possibility of common ground between liberal and > conservative members of the GLBT community, Barron seemed skeptical, saying > "I don't know. The left thinks that common ground is, especially the gay > left, 'Here's what we think and we welcome you to come and agree with us.' > That's not our idea of common ground." Barron cites the specific example of > a lack of Democratic support for allowing the purchase of insurance across > state lines, which he says would benefit gay couples in states without > strong domestic partner benefits, as evidence of gay liberals "follow[ing] > blindly whatever the Democratic Party tells them to do. Why else, Barron > asks, "would the gay left oppose something as common sense as that?" > > > > "Every gay and lesbian person who has been lucky enough to survive the > turmoil of growing up is a survivor. Survivors always have an obligation to > those who will face the same challenges." > > ....Jake > > > > This group is called "Peckers Pics." The English - slang definition of > "pecker" is to pluck at the truth. Therefore, we peck at items such as Gay > Men's Health, Male Fitness, Gay (LGBT) Politics & Issues. In this section > you may peck at each photo in order to decide the winner of the "war of the > fittest!" Whereas, you should select the guy that may inspire you to > exercise and "get fit!" Warning: This may stoke you! > > > Your participation in discussion of health / news articles - appearing in > this message is greatly appreciated. > > > 1 > > 2 > > 3 > > 4 > (He is featured in group pic #3 as well) > > 5 > Christopher > > 6 > Eduardo > > 7 > Vincente > > 8 > > 9 > > 10 > > 11 > > 12 > > 13 > > 14 > Jake Cuenca > > 15 > Mark John Sellado > > 16 > Joshua > > 17 > Derek Ramos > > 18 > > 19 > > 20 > > 21 > > 22 > > 23 > > 24 > Chase By Joey Wong > > 24a > > 25 > Brian Kehoe > > 26 > David Sederholm > > 27 > > 28 > Evandro Soldati > > 29 > > 30 > > 31 > Ryan Mathew White > > You Decide! > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > Stoked? > > > Boys Bar; The Cafe; San Francisco; Jan 21, 2011 > > GOProud's Chris Barron Draws Hard Lines on the Left and Right > > Alex Becker / Huffington Post / February 12, 2011 > > In an interview with the Huffington Post Saturday morning, Christopher > Barron, co-founder and board chairman of the gay conservative advocacy group > GOProud, clearly laid out the group's position vis-à-vis Democrats, and what > conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart has labeled as, "the activist gay > left." "Generally 95% of our hate mail and our criticism comes from the > left," says Barron, "the tolerance and diversity crowd on the left has > absolutely no tolerance for diversity of ideological views." > > This "diversity of ideological views" according to GOProud and Barron, > extends to conservative issues not traditionally placed under the banner of > "gay rights." We think gay rights includes taxes and things like the fair > tax, and free market health care reform, personal savings accounts and > social security and fighting the spread of radical, anti-gay Islam," Barron > says, "the left may not like them or think that they're gay rights issues, > but we think they are. > > When asked why he believed most people, gay and straight, associate gay > rights issues with liberals, Barron placed the blame more on messaging than > policy. I don't blame people for thinking that liberals are the only ones > who are pro-gay," Barron says, "because there's been no effort before by gay > conservatives to stand up and say that there's a different way forward." > > Despite popular beliefs on the left-leaning politics of the many gays and > lesbians, Barron points to the diverse political make up of the GLBT > community as evidence that the conservative message has resonated with them > in the past, and can do so in the future. "The gay population really isn't > monolithic and we see these swings in the gay vote," Barron says, citing > that the percentage of gay voters voting conservative has been "as low as 17 > or 18 percent in 2004 for President Bush's reelect, all the way up to 31% > this past time and in fact, in '94 during the Republican Revolution, it got > as high as 40%." > > The question of what issues and policies are defined as "pro" or "anti" gay, > has been key to GOProud's message and what Barron views as the group's > ultimate mission. In contrast with many better known gay rights > organizations, Barron claims that GOProud is "not looking for fairness and > inclusiveness and equality and tolerance and all this." He defines the > group's goal as more concrete and more political, saying "we want to make it > clear that conservative policy solutions are good for gay and lesbian > families [and] that they would improve their everyday lives." > > Despite the rising profile of both GOProud and gay conservatives, questions > of tolerance and inclusiveness have arisen mainly in regard to > conservatives, in the wake of decisions by well-known conservative > organizations such as the Family Research Council, Heritage Foundation and > Concerned Women for America to boycott CPAC due to GOProud's sponsorship of > the event. Here Barron says, it's important to draw a distinction between > those, such as conservative commentator Ann Coulter, who have "strong" but > "honest" policy disagreements with GOProud, and those who take a "we don't > want to be in the same room as the gays" approach. Those conservative groups > which do oppose GOProud on anti-gay grounds, Barron says, are "dressing up > their position that they don't want us [GOProud] here, in the window > dressing of protecting marriage." > > When asked about the possibility of common ground between liberal and > conservative members of the GLBT community, Barron seemed skeptical, saying > "I don't know. The left thinks that common ground is, especially the gay > left, 'Here's what we think and we welcome you to come and agree with us.' > That's not our idea of common ground." Barron cites the specific example of > a lack of Democratic support for allowing the purchase of insurance across > state lines, which he says would benefit gay couples in states without > strong domestic partner benefits, as evidence of gay liberals "follow[ing] > blindly whatever the Democratic Party tells them to do. Why else, Barron > asks, "would the gay left oppose something as common sense as that?" > > > > "Every gay and lesbian person who has been lucky enough to survive the > turmoil of growing up is a survivor. Survivors always have an obligation to > those who will face the same challenges." > > ....Jake > > > > > > > > > Bearhug Submission - NEW: Roommates: Ben vs. Ryan & then meet the guys at > Sean's. (Episode 115 ) (Wrestling fiction) (Your Yahoo Profile must include > Age, Gender, Location (checked - to the public) before you apply for > membership!): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BearhugSubmission_/join > > Bearhug Submission - NEW: Roommates: Ben vs. Ryan & then meet the guys at > Sean's. (Episode 115 ) (Wrestling fiction) (Your Yahoo Profile must include > Age, Gender, Location (checked - to the public) before you apply for > membership!): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BearhugSubmission_/join > > Bearhug Submission - NEW: Roommates: Ben vs. Ryan & then meet the guys at > Sean's. 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