Re: [Peckers_Pics] Male/Gay Health-Discussion-PICS Gays, lesbians call for Salvation Army boycott

I am so disgusted by people and organizations getting on their f-ing high horses and quoting scripture and religious doctrine to mis-treat, exclude, denigrate, etc. anyone under any conditions. We are all - every one of us - worthy of basic human rights and equal rights and protection under the law. Anyone or any organization who would deny anyone those rights for any reason is bigoted and abusive and unworthy of respect. And they should be "outed" as such - and boycotted and even prosecuted, if that is appropriate.  Its that damn religious zealotry which - again and again - has led to killing, war and large-scale human rights abuses.  

There are many local charities and causes that are worth our (and everyones') time, effort and resources )i.e. money) - both at this time and any time of the year. I prefer local charities than large-scale national charities where these issues often arise. I am talking about food pantries or banks, which are in great need of contributions since poverty and homelessness are at record levels and still rising. The need is greater than ever. Another good organization is your local women's shelter who save and care for abused women (and men, in some cases). But there are many others. Seek out those in need in your own community and give of your time and money to help raise up your own community.  Where there is poverty and homelessness, there is need. 

One more thing, if it is a big and broad cause to which you would like to provide your money, I would recommend The Point Foundation (pointfoundation.org). Their good works are about financial support, mentoring, leadership training and a whole lot of hope for students who have been marginalized around the country due to their sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression. This is a growing and very good organization - which is consistently lauded by HRC and local communities where they have literally "saved" many students by providing them with financial support for going to college when their families have either been unwilling or unable to support them.  Each student has a compelling and inspiring story of overcoming incredible obstacles and hardships. Check the site out - I believe in them and the help that they provide our left-out youth. Every student has the right to have he opportunity to make it in this world.

But the point is, check out your local community's need and be there for them during this holiday season and around the year. 

Warren

On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Jake wrote:

 

And here we go:

According to the Salvation Army's website, "Scripture forbids sexual intimacy between members of the same sex. The Salvation Army believes, therefore, that Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy as a way of life. There is no scriptural support for same-sex unions as equal to, or as an alternative to, heterosexual marriage." Nonetheless, the organization does go on to say that, "Likewise, there is no scriptural support for demeaning or mistreating anyone for reason of his or her sexual orientation. The Salvation Army opposes any such abuse."

...Jake

--- In Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com, Terry <smooth_op_85@...> wrote:
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> Bullshit! There are ways to donate to the poor without donating to Salvation Army. They can discriminate and not serve LGBT people so they can do without our dollars. I've skipped the red buckets for a while now.
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> Subject: [Peckers_Pics] Male/Gay Health-Discussion-PICS Gays, lesbians call for Salvation Army boycott
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> Gays, lesbians call for Salvation Army boycott
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/gays-lesbians-call-for-salvation-army-boycott/1
> >Dec 01, 2011  / USA Today
> >By Melanie Eversley
> >The gay and lesbian community is calling for a boycott of The Salvation Army and its annual holiday red kettle drive because of the organization's stance on gay and lesbian relationships, Christian Today, MSNBC and other news organizations are reporting.
> >Bil Browning, editor in chief of a blog titled The Bilerico Project, wrote in a post that, "If you care about gay rights, you'll skip their bucket in favor of a charity that doesn't actively discriminate against the LGBT community."
> >Browning further writes, "The Salvation Army doesn't believe that gays and lesbians should ever know the intimacy of any loving relationship."
> >What's more, a Facebook page titled Boycott the Salvation Armyhad generated more than 3,100 "Likes" as of 3:30 p.m. ET. The page cites the stance of the organization based in Alexandria, Va., that a marriage consists of one man and one woman. The page refers to The Salvation Army as "an evangelical church promoting conservative Christianity and anti-gay politics."
> >But a representative for the organization told Christian Today that the disagreement boils down to theology.
> >"The Salvation Army and the gay community are never going to come to an agreement on the topic," Maj. George Hood, national community relations secretary for the organization, told Christian Today.
> >Hood told the news organization that the boycott is unfortunate because its clients, including members of the gay and lesbian community, will be hurt.
> >"If people refuse to give, it's the poor and people in need that will suffer," Hood said.
> >Lt. Col. Ralph Bukiewicz, divisional commander of The Salvation Army Metropolitan Division, denied to MSNBC that the organization discriminates.
> >"In our policies, in our practices, in our programs and in our eligibility for any service within The Salvation Army, there is not a request for any details concerning sexual orientation," Bukiewicz said.
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