Monday, April 4, 2011

Re: [Peckers_Pics] Re: Banning Circumcision - the AMA says it does not protect from STD's



It would be insane politics to ban circumcision.
The Untied states sems to invent mor eand more reasons to have its citizens fighting each other every day!
O.K. well that's exaggerating, but for Heaven's Sake don't be so damned dictatorial!!
 
You can't have your kids pray in public schools, some people are anti-gay and now gays are anti circumcision.
 
What's the matter with you Americans/
 
You say you have a free country.
 
Then stop making people unfree.
 
Also infection from HIV/AIDS should not be, happening if condoms were used and HIV/AIDS  infected people always warned others that they have sex with that they have been infected.
 
I'm sorry but ethnic immunity to AIDS/HIV is not something that happens.
 
Gays should stop finding excuses for having unprotected sex both orally and annally and blaming it on men who are uncircumsized or whatever the B.S. yougys are wasting time on.
 
You want issues to make an impact on?
 
Try poverty in the United states, equal educational opportunites for all schools whether they are in a poor area or a rich area.
 
More education and diallogue with the poor and homless and less
over eating and more giving money tp ffod banks from individuals who can afford to EAT less and therefore that can help them maintain  a healthy wait at the same time.
 
That's all from me for now.
I am too upset about all of this.
By the way My background circumsizes.
My grand-father fathered 9 children.
My grandparents had sexually fullfilling sex life.
 
There were not problems with my father's or my gran-fathre's or my brother-in-law's nerve endings.
What is all this crap about?
Sorry if I am stepping on anyone's toes, but you guys are stepping
on alot of other people's.
Respecfully,
Butch
 
 

 


From: "ifctv1@aol.com" <ifctv1@aol.com>
To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 5:51:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Peckers_Pics] Re: Banning Circumcision - the AMA says it does not protect from STD's

 

I for one am and I had my son circumcised and if we have another boy he will be to. It ridiculous to think this could come up to a vote. All people will have to do is go to another county,

 


 
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From: medibolics_michael <michael@michaelmooney.net>
To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 4:52 pm
Subject: [Peckers_Pics] Re: Banning Circumcision - the AMA says it does not protect from STD's

I guess you didn't read my article thoroughly. All studies that have suggested  that circumcision prevents or reduces STD's like HIV have been dismissed by  medical authorities. It's not true.   The Council on Scientific Affairs of the American Medical Association says that  ``circumcision cannot be responsibly viewed as `protecting' against such  infections."  The American Medical Association also said, "The leading international statement  of medical ethics is the European Convention on Human Rights and Bioethics,  where Article 20(1) prohibits non-therapeutic tissue removal from those who do  not have the capacity to consent. Children have a right to the protection of the  security of their person and to protection from degrading treatment.  Circumcision violates those human rights. Several authorities report that  circumcision degrades the erectile function of the penis. Circumcision,  therefore, must be regarded as degrading treatment. Degrading treatment is an  additional violation of human rights."  So according to the highest international ethics standards circumcision violates  a baby's human rights.  That's why it should be illegal. Case closed!  Michael Mooney www.michaelmooney.net www.medibolics.com  --- In Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com, stanley blanc <butch_blanc@...> wrote: > > There are other infections and diseases that circumcision prevents or reduces. >  > This issue has more than a few medical views/opinions on it. >  > Also bacteria can hide in an uncircumsized foreskin and can be passed on to  > others or cause infection in the uncircumsized person himself. >  > Als, why are gays now going to a right-wing typical American > dictatorial method about doing something that parents should decide/ > That is whether it is a decision for medical or religious reasons. >  > I am really getting fed up with hypocrisy. > Yes and I mean especially from Americans whether gay or straight. > Butch >  >  >  >  > ________________________________ > From: medibolics_michael <michael@...> > To: Peckers_Pics@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 11:55:10 PM > Subject: [Peckers_Pics] Banning Circumcision >  > ��   > OK guys, I researched this issue thoroughly and it turns out that circumcision   > DOES NOT reduce chances of HIV or STD infection. In fact, it increases them  > because foreskin produces immune factors like lysozymes that kill HIV and  > various invading organisms. >  > Additionally, uncircumcised guys are about four times more sensitive than  > circumcised because circumcision removes the most sensitive parts of the organ   > and over 20,000 nerve ending. >  > Lloyd Shofeld is putting banning circumcision on the ballot in San Francisco.  I  > am proposing we echo his bill in West Hollywood. Stop mutilating baby boys! >  > To read the full story  > see:http://wehonews.com/z/wehonews/archive/page.php?articleID=5792. >  > This article is fully referenced from the published medical literature. This  is  > not someone's opinion. I formed my opinion after reading several dozen  studies. >  > Michael Mooney > www.michaelmooney.net > www.medibolics.com >  > Moderator: Thanks Michael. I notice you change on this from time to time.  > Michael, you know that many of your opinions i research and formed new opinion   > and even Amer. Mewdical Assoc has taken a different stance that agrees with  you,  > etc. Some items have nopt been agreed to. Yes i know about corruption, etc....   > However, i have read huge studies that show different opinions on  circumcision.  > 1st of all, countries and ethnic that lead in HIV ingection, are usually  > un-circumcised.  >  >  > However, I believe that some have a genetic make up that prevents infection  > (immunity). That is why so many guys in a long term relationship have found 1  of  > the 2 infected. So mnay of these cases demonstrate that these are couples who  > had 1 of 2 partners unknowingly carrying HIV for 1 or more decades, while the  > other partner, never tested positive. i have read hundreds, perhaps thousands  of  > explanations.  >  >  > Personally, if i had a new born son, i would not have him circumsized as it is   > painful, trumatic, etc.... to the infact. However, i repect religious  > consideration, etc.... I am not making blanket statement of what one should  do.  >  >  > ....jake >     ------------------------------------  All members of "Peckers PICS" are requested to join our "Obama Biden 2008" group  as it runs in conjunction to this group.  Both groups shall not repeat articles  from one group to another.  However, to gain full knowledge of Gay rights,  members must belong to the Obama group as well as this group.  Therefore, please  accept your invitation to join.    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